1 00:00:01,429 --> 00:00:04,830 Previously on L .A. Law. The Bentley Continental R. 2 00:00:05,090 --> 00:00:06,090 You ever seen one? 3 00:00:06,190 --> 00:00:08,950 No, I haven't. Do you see any reason they shouldn't buy it? 4 00:00:09,170 --> 00:00:12,550 If you're not bothered by the display of wealth and you enjoy arousing the 5 00:00:12,550 --> 00:00:15,170 feelings of envy in others, I think you should. 6 00:00:15,630 --> 00:00:18,210 I'm sure people tell you all the time how you don't look like a private 7 00:00:18,210 --> 00:00:20,870 investigator. Yes, they do. Yeah, I figured they did. 8 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:22,980 Is that something you were planning on saying? 9 00:00:23,220 --> 00:00:27,980 Me? No. A correctional officer was killed as an indirect but proximate 10 00:00:27,980 --> 00:00:28,980 your client's actions. 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,800 What's fair is that he served the next 20 years of his life in prison. 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,380 Mr. Rollins, since, as I understand it, you'll be the one trying this case, I 13 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:40,560 would like to know if you are willing to defend my husband in the manner in 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,960 which he wants to be defended. 15 00:00:42,260 --> 00:00:45,000 Well, Stuart's absolutely right that this is a long shot. 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,040 As long as you understand that, I'm willing to see where the evidence leads. 17 00:00:48,340 --> 00:00:51,980 If we can build a credible case that Horace Washington's life was in danger, 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,380 then, yeah, I'm willing to go to court with that. 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,920 You want me to testify, Mr. Rollins? 20 00:00:57,740 --> 00:00:58,740 Yes, I do. 21 00:00:58,860 --> 00:01:02,040 You tell me where and when you want me to show up. 22 00:01:03,060 --> 00:01:04,060 I'll be there. 23 00:01:24,170 --> 00:01:25,570 Nice day to have the top down. 24 00:01:26,770 --> 00:01:30,350 I'd rather be driving what you're driving. You can appreciate the view 25 00:01:30,350 --> 00:01:31,350 fully from the inside. 26 00:01:32,030 --> 00:01:33,590 Are you offering me a ride? 27 00:01:34,050 --> 00:01:38,130 Absolutely. Generally, I make it a rule not to get into cars with strangers. 28 00:01:38,570 --> 00:01:41,790 But there's an exception for every rule, isn't there? And are you the exception? 29 00:01:42,170 --> 00:01:44,050 Yes, I am. I am the exception. 30 00:01:44,530 --> 00:01:48,290 So what I suggest we do is, if you follow me back to my office, you park 31 00:01:48,290 --> 00:01:51,930 car in my space, and take a ride right now. Where's your office? 32 00:01:52,589 --> 00:01:53,750 444, that's Flower. 33 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:55,390 And you want me to follow you? 34 00:01:55,970 --> 00:01:57,790 Right this minute. 35 00:04:03,329 --> 00:04:05,990 United States versus Ellison. Trial starts today. 36 00:04:06,250 --> 00:04:07,228 What's your defense? 37 00:04:07,230 --> 00:04:08,690 That the action taken was justified. 38 00:04:09,090 --> 00:04:10,870 Aiding and abetting an escape was justified? 39 00:04:11,190 --> 00:04:12,910 Right. What about smuggling in a gun? 40 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:16,370 He didn't do that. Stewart, are you in accord with this approach? 41 00:04:16,790 --> 00:04:18,910 Jonathan's trying this case. I'll defer to his judgment. 42 00:04:19,250 --> 00:04:22,810 Tomba versus Tomba. Arnie asked me to take this one over. We're representing 43 00:04:22,810 --> 00:04:26,210 Gretchen Tomba, who's going for divorce. Her husband says he wants desperately 44 00:04:26,210 --> 00:04:29,850 to stay married or, in the alternative, to receive $50 ,000 a month in spousal 45 00:04:29,850 --> 00:04:32,070 support. Morning, Arnold. Where do you stand? 46 00:04:32,540 --> 00:04:36,120 We're in depositions. And you're comfortable dealing with California law? 47 00:04:36,340 --> 00:04:39,120 I dealt with it when I was handling divorces in New York. Plus, I'll be 48 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,720 the California bar exam soon, so I'll be boning up on it. When is the exam being 49 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,700 given? Is anybody in here at all interested in what happened to me this 50 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,660 Is anybody interested in why I am late? In why I am sitting here utterly 51 00:04:49,660 --> 00:04:50,660 distraught? 52 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,780 I got rear -ended sitting at a light. 53 00:04:56,380 --> 00:04:57,379 You're Bentley? 54 00:04:57,380 --> 00:05:01,300 Yes. My Bentley. It'll be in the shop for six weeks. It'll cost five figures 55 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:04,700 it costs a diamond. Do you know who hit me? Or rather, do you know the ethnicity 56 00:05:04,700 --> 00:05:07,460 of who hit me? The ethnicity? I'll give you a hint. 57 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,400 They are the worst drivers on the face of the earth. Chinese. 58 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:12,760 Bingo. Is that really irrelevant? 59 00:05:13,180 --> 00:05:14,180 Is it even accurate? 60 00:05:14,380 --> 00:05:17,340 What do you mean? I know who it was who hit me. You know that he was Chinese? 61 00:05:17,420 --> 00:05:21,740 You know he wasn't Japanese or Korean or Thai? He was Oriental, okay? 62 00:05:22,060 --> 00:05:23,660 D -W -O. 63 00:05:24,250 --> 00:05:28,570 Driving while oriental. You know that oriental is considered a derogatory 64 00:05:28,810 --> 00:05:33,170 Oh, is it? Excuse me, what is the correct term? Asian. All right, Asians 65 00:05:34,110 --> 00:05:38,170 Asians can't drive. They don't know how. They make right -hand turns from the 66 00:05:38,170 --> 00:05:41,390 center lane. They stop in the middle of the street, and they run into cars. 67 00:05:41,820 --> 00:05:45,600 sitting at a dead stop. No doubt there are Asian people who aren't accustomed 68 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,560 driving a car, who are unfamiliar with the city. Why wouldn't you attribute it 69 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,079 to that? 70 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,360 I don't know what to attribute it to, Jane. I don't know whether it's cultural 71 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,040 or physiological or what it is. 72 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:58,020 All I know is that it's true. They can't drive. 73 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,280 And because they can't drive, my Bentley, Continental R, got hit. 74 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,020 I'm going home. I can't stay here right now. I'm going home. 75 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Move along. 76 00:06:12,190 --> 00:06:13,190 Mr. 77 00:06:14,210 --> 00:06:17,790 Weeks, I'd like for you to tell us where you were and what you were doing in the 78 00:06:17,790 --> 00:06:18,890 spring of 1968. 79 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:22,730 I was a correctional officer at the Eastern Idaho Federal Prison. 80 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:25,270 Was Horace Washington a prisoner at that time? 81 00:06:25,550 --> 00:06:26,429 Yes, he was. 82 00:06:26,430 --> 00:06:31,610 Would you describe the events that you observed on June 19, 1968? 83 00:06:32,210 --> 00:06:33,710 Mr. Washington tried to escape. 84 00:06:34,050 --> 00:06:35,050 How did he do that? 85 00:06:35,250 --> 00:06:36,930 By commandeering a laundry truck. 86 00:06:37,190 --> 00:06:38,190 And what happened? 87 00:06:38,330 --> 00:06:39,330 He was ordered to stop. 88 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,440 at which point he opened fire, killing Donald Foley, a fellow officer. 89 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,500 We returned fire, killing Mr. Washington. 90 00:06:48,780 --> 00:06:53,540 That would indicate that Mr. Washington had a gun in his possession. Is that 91 00:06:53,540 --> 00:06:58,220 right? That's right. Tell us, Mr. Weeks, have you ever seen the defendant before 92 00:06:58,220 --> 00:06:59,220 today? 93 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,820 I saw him at the prison. 94 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:05,020 What were the circumstances surrounding that visit? He was visiting Horace 95 00:07:05,020 --> 00:07:06,840 Washington. I have no further questions. 96 00:07:09,390 --> 00:07:12,250 What kind of prisoner was Horace Washington, Mr. Weeks? 97 00:07:12,570 --> 00:07:15,570 Objection. Irrelevant. The witness's attitude toward the prisoner is directly 98 00:07:15,570 --> 00:07:18,770 relevant to whether or not the prisoner's life was in danger. I'll 99 00:07:19,450 --> 00:07:20,450 Mr. Weeks? 100 00:07:20,470 --> 00:07:22,850 He was a pain in the ass. What else would you like to know? 101 00:07:23,690 --> 00:07:25,930 What made him a pain in the ass? 102 00:07:26,210 --> 00:07:27,210 He was a militant. 103 00:07:27,870 --> 00:07:32,870 He'd stir up the other convicts, and he'd file a different writ every week. 104 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:34,570 always had to keep transporting him to the court. 105 00:07:34,830 --> 00:07:38,630 He was always having visits from his supporters, like your friend over there. 106 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,700 and he had a big mouth. 107 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,500 I had a foul mouth. 108 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,600 I didn't like him. I didn't like what he stood for. Did you ever strike a 109 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,600 prisoner, Mr. Weeks? 110 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:47,940 Only when it was necessary. 111 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,740 And what would cause it to be necessary? 112 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,280 They'd act up. 113 00:07:51,740 --> 00:07:54,840 I'd have to show them who was in charge. Was that a need that arose with 114 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,560 particular frequency when the prisoner also happened to be a Black Panther? 115 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,300 I don't know. I didn't keep track. 116 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:02,900 Oh. 117 00:08:03,260 --> 00:08:05,760 You testified that Horace Washington opened fire. 118 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,900 Did you personally observe him opening fire? 119 00:08:09,290 --> 00:08:11,030 No, I did not. No, you did not. 120 00:08:11,590 --> 00:08:14,730 What do you base your testimony on? On the fact that a fellow officer was dead 121 00:08:14,730 --> 00:08:15,730 on the ground. 122 00:08:16,950 --> 00:08:20,230 You think that Horace Washington was a great man, don't you? Mr. Weeks. You 123 00:08:20,230 --> 00:08:21,230 think his life was in danger? 124 00:08:21,630 --> 00:08:25,490 My life was in danger. Every hour of every shift of every day that I went to 125 00:08:25,490 --> 00:08:28,410 work in that prison, my life was in danger. Mr. Weeks. As far as I'm 126 00:08:28,630 --> 00:08:31,710 he got what was coming to him, and you got what's coming to you. Mr. 127 00:08:31,990 --> 00:08:34,530 Weeks. I have no further questions. 128 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,419 When did you start Roy Tombaugh Seminars, Mr. Tombaugh? Gee, I guess it 129 00:08:40,419 --> 00:08:45,020 have been around 1988 when I first came up with its concept. 130 00:08:45,380 --> 00:08:48,140 Would you describe for us what that concept was? 131 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:53,080 Well, essentially, it was a series of workshops and weekends during which I 132 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,380 talked to couples interested in improving upon and deepening their 133 00:08:57,380 --> 00:08:58,700 with one another. 134 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Well, did this prove to be a money -making prospect at first? 135 00:09:02,170 --> 00:09:06,110 No, it did not. As a matter of fact, it wasn't until year four that it started 136 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:07,990 making a profit at all. That is correct. 137 00:09:08,330 --> 00:09:13,570 And you also have rather extensive expenses. Is that right, sir? Yes, I do. 138 00:09:13,770 --> 00:09:17,710 Yeah, you rent hotel ballrooms. You travel around the country. You produce 139 00:09:17,710 --> 00:09:20,530 and audio tapes. You buy commercial time on television. 140 00:09:20,970 --> 00:09:24,110 Where does that money come from? From my wife. From your wife. 141 00:09:24,370 --> 00:09:25,970 And I want to say something. 142 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:27,830 We're going through a little bit of a... 143 00:09:28,090 --> 00:09:32,810 Tough time right now. She has the urge to sprout her wings. Okay. 144 00:09:33,290 --> 00:09:38,090 But what I feel is it's time for us to roll up our sleeves and work on our 145 00:09:38,090 --> 00:09:39,650 marriage. Could we get on with this? 146 00:09:39,870 --> 00:09:43,990 Yes. So it was your wife using money that she inherited from her family who 147 00:09:43,990 --> 00:09:47,330 provided the startup capital. It was your wife who covered your overhead. 148 00:09:47,570 --> 00:09:50,530 And you're in here now asking for a lump sum payment of $4 million. 149 00:09:51,330 --> 00:09:53,650 And spells will support $50 ,000 a month. 150 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,220 Can you tell us how you justify that? He doesn't have to justify it. I call this 151 00:09:58,220 --> 00:10:04,060 one of the three dividers. I'm being used, I'm being ignored, I'm being made 152 00:10:04,060 --> 00:10:07,020 of. Gretchen feels as though I'm using her. 153 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:13,020 What she needs to see is that I value her, that I value the experience of 154 00:10:13,020 --> 00:10:17,960 your husband, one of the four building blocks to respect, to communicate, to 155 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:18,960 understand. 156 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,239 To value. 157 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,440 You know, Eli, I can't stay here. You don't have to stay. Gretchen, the nine 158 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,800 pillars, are you forgetting? 159 00:10:25,020 --> 00:10:30,080 No, Roy. I am not forgetting the nine pillars or the four building blocks or 160 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,520 seven wake -up calls or the five life -affirming gestures. 161 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:38,220 My problem is one that you don't address in your seminars or your audio tapes. 162 00:10:38,340 --> 00:10:43,480 My problem is that I become physically ill every time I realize that I am still 163 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,480 married to you. 164 00:10:50,380 --> 00:10:54,540 I want to say something, and I want to say it for the record. Whether or not we 165 00:10:54,540 --> 00:10:59,120 manage to get our marriage back on track, that lady is a ten. 166 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:12,940 Where were you and what were you doing in the spring of 1968, sir? I was a 167 00:11:12,940 --> 00:11:15,460 prisoner at Easton, Idaho, a federal prison. 168 00:11:15,740 --> 00:11:17,680 What had you been sentenced to prison for, sir? 169 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:18,960 Bank robbery. 170 00:11:19,070 --> 00:11:21,690 Were you affiliated with any particular organization at that time? 171 00:11:21,950 --> 00:11:24,990 I was a member of the Black Panther Party. Was the treatment received by the 172 00:11:24,990 --> 00:11:28,810 members of the Black Panther Party different from the treatment received by 173 00:11:28,810 --> 00:11:29,850 general prison population? 174 00:11:30,430 --> 00:11:31,430 You could say that. 175 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:32,710 In what way was it different? 176 00:11:33,010 --> 00:11:34,210 There were threats. 177 00:11:34,830 --> 00:11:39,330 There were beatings. I saw a guard shoot a prisoner from a tower in the yard. 178 00:11:39,810 --> 00:11:43,410 It was made clear to us on a regular basis that to be a member of the Black 179 00:11:43,410 --> 00:11:46,070 Panther Party, you were a target. 180 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,400 for anything that the guards thought they could get away with. Objection. 181 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,120 Speculation. Sustained. The last part of the witness response is stricken. 182 00:11:54,340 --> 00:11:57,280 Was Horace Washington a member of the Black Panther Party? 183 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:58,560 Yes, sir, he was. 184 00:11:58,580 --> 00:12:02,960 Did you have any reason to believe that in the spring of 1968, Horace 185 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,640 Washington's life was in danger? Objection. Leading the witness. 186 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,400 Overruled. The witness may answer. 187 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,440 Horace was about to have his book published. The guards had sent him more 188 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,440 one occasion. 189 00:12:15,770 --> 00:12:19,610 That they would kill him if that happened. Objection. Here's safe. 190 00:12:19,610 --> 00:12:23,250 stricken, the jury will disregard. Did you yourself observe a change in the 191 00:12:23,250 --> 00:12:27,390 behavior of the prison guards toward Mr. Washington when it became known that 192 00:12:27,390 --> 00:12:28,670 his book was going to be published? 193 00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:31,910 Observed them beat him half to death. 194 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:35,470 Nothing further. 195 00:12:49,580 --> 00:12:54,960 Were you ever privy to any prison directives regarding the Black Panther 196 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,200 No official ones. 197 00:12:56,340 --> 00:12:57,980 Well, then how about unofficial ones? 198 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,680 Did you ever witness a warden or assistant warden giving a guard a direct 199 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:07,780 to threaten or harass or abuse members of the Black Panther Party? They don't 200 00:13:07,780 --> 00:13:11,200 give direct orders. That's not the way it happens. Asked that the witness be 201 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,840 directed to answer the question that he's been asked? 202 00:13:14,540 --> 00:13:17,880 I was never a witness to a... 203 00:13:18,250 --> 00:13:21,510 A direct order being given. Is it possible, Mr. Hovey, that what the 204 00:13:21,510 --> 00:13:25,270 correctional offices were doing was nothing more than maintaining order? 205 00:13:25,530 --> 00:13:29,170 They brutalized us, Mr. Shale. Were not you yourselves brutal? 206 00:13:29,790 --> 00:13:34,110 Were not you yourselves nothing more than a group of violent criminals who 207 00:13:34,110 --> 00:13:38,450 treated the way violent criminals are always perforce treated? Does that mean 208 00:13:38,450 --> 00:13:40,850 murder? Who, Mr. Hovey? Who has been murdered? 209 00:13:41,070 --> 00:13:45,170 Horace Washington was murdered. Isn't it a fact, Mr. Hovey, that Mr. Washington 210 00:13:45,170 --> 00:13:47,270 fired the first shot? No, Mr. 211 00:13:47,470 --> 00:13:51,750 Schell, it is not a fact. It's a lie. They lied about it when it happened, and 212 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:55,760 you're lying right now. Moved that the witness's last remarks be stricken from 213 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,020 the record. So stricken. Horace never fired a gun. Horace didn't have a gun. 214 00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:15,920 What's happened, Douglas? 215 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:20,200 Someone dented your car, Arnold. It doesn't require you to reevaluate your 216 00:14:20,460 --> 00:14:21,460 I think it might. 217 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,360 For some time, not everything I touch turns bad. 218 00:14:26,620 --> 00:14:29,380 And it isn't just the car, Douglas. It isn't just the car. 219 00:14:30,060 --> 00:14:31,060 What else is it? 220 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,440 Women aren't going to bed with me anymore. 221 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,760 Has it been more than a week, Arnold? 222 00:14:36,140 --> 00:14:37,140 I guess it has. 223 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,240 I engage them, I talk to them, and they don't respond. 224 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,240 They look at me like I'm some mildly amusing throwback to another era. It's 225 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,400 the secret council of women has met and voted unanimously. 226 00:14:51,050 --> 00:14:52,490 Becker doesn't get any. 227 00:14:53,690 --> 00:15:00,650 Well, you know, it is possible that your career as a stick man is coming 228 00:15:00,650 --> 00:15:01,650 to a close. 229 00:15:02,390 --> 00:15:07,530 You've had a good run, a longer run than most, and now maybe it's time for you 230 00:15:07,530 --> 00:15:11,130 to live life like the rest of us, for whom the world isn't a smorgasbord of 231 00:15:11,130 --> 00:15:12,930 sexually willing and adventurous females. 232 00:15:13,730 --> 00:15:17,690 Every three or four weeks, you have sex with your wife, assuming she's speaking 233 00:15:17,690 --> 00:15:20,170 to you, and that's about it. Douglas. 234 00:15:20,980 --> 00:15:22,300 I'm not ready for that. 235 00:15:22,540 --> 00:15:23,540 Buck up, Skipper. 236 00:15:23,780 --> 00:15:24,820 You've got a great car. 237 00:15:29,740 --> 00:15:30,740 Eli? 238 00:15:32,060 --> 00:15:33,520 Jinx, what are you doing here? 239 00:15:33,820 --> 00:15:35,340 You wanted to see me. We have an appointment. 240 00:15:36,220 --> 00:15:37,220 That's right. 241 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,200 The husband's name is Roy Tamba. 242 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,100 I need to set up some kind of surveillance on him. Here's the file. 243 00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:44,359 What am I looking for? 244 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,900 Well, you've been rather mercenary in this divorce. 245 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:48,580 I'd like anything that would make him go away. 246 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,740 I'll see what I can find. Thanks. 247 00:15:51,420 --> 00:15:53,100 I thought you were headed back to New York. 248 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,560 I decided to stay. 249 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,300 Having second thoughts? 250 00:15:56,860 --> 00:15:58,400 Can I confide something in you? 251 00:15:58,980 --> 00:15:59,980 Of course. 252 00:16:00,020 --> 00:16:02,920 I was just lying over there in the midst of a full -on anxiety attack. 253 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:04,180 Why? 254 00:16:04,540 --> 00:16:08,380 In the interest of being spontaneous and groovy, I acted precipitously. 255 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,320 I sublet my apartment, I took a leave of absence from my firm, and I moved out 256 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:13,320 here. Yeah? 257 00:16:13,420 --> 00:16:14,700 I think I made a big mistake. 258 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,340 I went from a great apartment in Manhattan to a hotel room in Los 259 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,680 I don't know how to drive. I don't know any places to eat. 260 00:16:23,420 --> 00:16:24,440 You don't drive? 261 00:16:24,740 --> 00:16:26,980 I know it's inconceivable to anyone who lives out here. 262 00:16:27,220 --> 00:16:28,220 How do you get around? 263 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,200 Bus, cab, people give me rides. 264 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:33,620 The other night to get back to my hotel from the restaurant, I decided to walk. 265 00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:37,840 Halfway back, I started to panic and hyperventilate and feel a sense of total 266 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,220 disorientation. I said to myself, great, this is all I need. Now I'm coming down 267 00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:42,220 with agoraphobia, too. 268 00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:44,020 What kind of restaurant do you like? 269 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:45,539 All kinds. 270 00:16:45,540 --> 00:16:47,780 Chinese, Italian, Jewish dairy restaurants. 271 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,580 The other day what I wanted more than anything in the world was a hot dog. 272 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,880 You free tonight? 273 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,480 I'm free every night. 274 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,040 I'll pick you up at seven. 275 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,740 Really? Mm -hmm. 276 00:16:57,500 --> 00:16:59,760 Wait for me downstairs so I don't have to park. 277 00:17:04,060 --> 00:17:07,960 Do you deny taking part in the attempt to assist Horace Washington's escape 278 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,200 prison? No, I don't. 279 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,060 Would you tell me with some specificity exactly what part you played? I attended 280 00:17:14,060 --> 00:17:17,460 meetings of the Committee in Solidarity with the Black Panther Party. 281 00:17:17,780 --> 00:17:20,000 I met with Horace Washington at the prison. 282 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:26,079 I obtained false identification and rented a car that I left for Horace by 283 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:26,919 side of the road. 284 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,260 Did you smuggle a gun into the prison? 285 00:17:29,740 --> 00:17:33,780 No, I did not. To the best of your knowledge, was a gun in fact being 286 00:17:33,780 --> 00:17:36,040 in? No, there was no gun. 287 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,040 Would you tell us why you thought fit to play a role in the plan? 288 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,920 I was convinced that if Horace Washington remained in prison, he would 289 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,700 killed. What was it that convinced you of that? 290 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:48,480 A conversation I had with Horace when I visited with him at the prison. 291 00:17:48,700 --> 00:17:49,599 What was said? 292 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,540 He told me that he had been beaten two nights before. 293 00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:56,160 Objection. Hearsay. Goes to the witness's state of mind, Your Honor. I'm 294 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,960 to allow it. The objection's overruled. Did Horace Washington show physical 295 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:01,160 signs that he had been beaten? 296 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,200 Yes, he did. He had both his eyes blackened. 297 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,440 There were several bandages on his face and head, and he walked with a 298 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,780 pronounced limp. 299 00:18:09,980 --> 00:18:12,680 What specifically made you believe that his life was threatened? 300 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:17,780 He said that the guards had told him that if his book was published, they'd 301 00:18:17,780 --> 00:18:21,200 him. Objection, Your Honor. This is now double hearsay. Your Honor, once again, 302 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,100 I maintain it goes to the defendant's state of mind. 303 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,560 I'll allow it. 304 00:18:24,660 --> 00:18:28,180 What, if anything, made you believe that this threat was imminent? 305 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,960 Well, Horace's book was going to come out at the end of the month. 306 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,680 I have nothing further. 307 00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:40,280 Let me ask you something, Mr. Ellison. 308 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,260 If Charles Manson's life were in danger, would you help him to assume? 309 00:18:46,340 --> 00:18:50,320 Objection. I'm entitled to pursue this issue, Your Honor. It was the defense 310 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,080 brought it. As it pertains to Horace Washington, not Charles Manson. I'm 311 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,080 to allow the government to pursue this. The objection's overruled. Well, Mr. 312 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,100 Ellison, how about it? In my opinion, Charles Manson is not a political 313 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:03,100 prisoner. 314 00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:08,830 The last time I looked, Horace Washington was in prison for bank 315 00:19:08,830 --> 00:19:09,809 murder. 316 00:19:09,810 --> 00:19:13,490 Now, what was it exactly that made him a political prisoner? 317 00:19:13,770 --> 00:19:17,590 What made Horace Washington a political prisoner was the fact that his treatment 318 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:21,910 in the criminal justice system followed from his political activities, not from 319 00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:22,910 his so -called crimes. 320 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:29,010 So he was innocent. 321 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:33,010 I don't know whether he was innocent or not. 322 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:37,280 Did you ever think about the public safety considerations of releasing a 323 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,280 onto the streets? 324 00:19:39,180 --> 00:19:43,680 No. Did you ever think of the people who might die, who did die as a result of 325 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,499 your adventure? 326 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:50,680 Look, we were... We were trying to... We were interested in doing something. 327 00:19:51,180 --> 00:19:55,160 I don't know. Maybe we just wanted to be outlaws. Maybe we wanted to violate 328 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,820 every middle -class convention possible. I don't know. 329 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,660 I... Can't say with absolute certainty that what we did was right or justified. 330 00:20:06,620 --> 00:20:09,160 Your Honor, may I have a moment to confer with my client? 331 00:20:09,420 --> 00:20:10,820 I have no further questions. 332 00:20:11,020 --> 00:20:13,580 Counsel can confer with his client as long as he wants. 333 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,920 You may stand down, Mr. Ellison. 334 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,200 I have lived with having played a part in the death of two men for most of my 335 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,079 adult life. 336 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,320 Now, I will not concede that that was wrong. 337 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,100 And I... And I won't insist that it was right. 338 00:20:30,860 --> 00:20:33,740 The truth is that I don't know. 339 00:20:40,420 --> 00:20:46,680 After all this time, the one thing I am sure of is I 340 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,160 have to tell the truth. 341 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,440 I didn't do it on purpose. I just found that I could not say what was on my 342 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,540 mind. You might have thought to indulge yourself in that outside the presence of 343 00:21:10,540 --> 00:21:11,499 the jury. 344 00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:14,940 Oh, you think I was being indulgent? Yeah, man, I think you're being 345 00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:16,500 indulgent and not real smart. 346 00:21:16,780 --> 00:21:20,120 All right, Jonathan, let's try to be a little constructive here. 347 00:21:21,180 --> 00:21:24,860 We know Vernon Weeks was lying. Is that an ideological position or are you 348 00:21:24,860 --> 00:21:26,000 possessed of some information? 349 00:21:26,380 --> 00:21:27,780 Why are you being like this? 350 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:29,900 Because he's tired, because we're all tired. 351 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:31,900 Well, why don't we just call it a day then? 352 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,400 Is it a lost cause, you guys? 353 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,460 We have to turn the jury against the government. The government then and the 354 00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:39,320 government now. And how do we do that? You make the actions of the government 355 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,460 appear sufficiently evil, sufficiently brutal, so that they refuse to reward 356 00:21:43,460 --> 00:21:45,040 government with a conviction. That's how you do it. 357 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,100 Where's the file in the prison guard? 358 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,180 You should have one in some place. 359 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:08,120 My God. 360 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,400 What kind of car is this? 361 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,760 It's a Ferrari. 362 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,980 You're not an overly fast driver by any chance, are you? 363 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,720 You're completely without fear. 364 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,040 That's not true. 365 00:22:37,260 --> 00:22:41,160 You do drive at an excessive rate of speed. I hope you realize that. I drive 366 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,620 well as conditions permit. What I was doing was not. 367 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,000 You're insane. 368 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,539 You're insane. 369 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:49,160 You live in a state of total fear. 370 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,220 While in the car just now, that was a reasonable apprehension of death. 371 00:22:53,460 --> 00:22:55,200 That's not living in a state of total fear. 372 00:22:55,420 --> 00:22:57,780 But you do live in a state of total fear. 373 00:22:58,120 --> 00:22:59,120 Not really. 374 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,240 I'm afraid of death. 375 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:02,100 I'm afraid of illness. 376 00:23:03,150 --> 00:23:07,590 I'm afraid of different kinds of illness, prostate cancer, adult onset 377 00:23:07,850 --> 00:23:09,050 embolisms of all forms. 378 00:23:09,610 --> 00:23:11,150 You think about those things. 379 00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:13,930 You could say they cross my mind every once in a while. 380 00:23:14,190 --> 00:23:17,610 I never think about those things. I like to live as good a life as I can. I 381 00:23:17,610 --> 00:23:18,950 don't like to fill it with bad thoughts. 382 00:23:21,250 --> 00:23:23,630 You do know some good places to eat. You like this place. 383 00:23:25,130 --> 00:23:26,150 I love this place. 384 00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:27,970 I had a feeling you'd like this place. 385 00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:30,770 If I could face the prospect of riding a car with you. 386 00:23:31,479 --> 00:23:32,700 I'd ask her to give me a tour. 387 00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:35,140 I'll give you a tour. 388 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,360 I'll drive low. 389 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,980 Yeah? Vernon Weeks. 390 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:52,560 Yeah? My name is Stuart Markowitz. 391 00:23:53,020 --> 00:23:54,020 You're one of the lawyers? 392 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,600 Yes, I am. 393 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,240 May I come in for a minute? 394 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,720 So what can I do for you? 395 00:24:11,020 --> 00:24:13,440 I'd like you to help me understand something, Mr. Weeks. 396 00:24:14,260 --> 00:24:18,240 The Department of Corrections forced you into an early retirement because of a 397 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,320 medical problem, right? 398 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,980 And judging from the number of grievances that you filed, it's obvious 399 00:24:24,980 --> 00:24:25,980 feel you got screwed. 400 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,800 I'm trying to understand why you're standing up for him. 401 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,560 How am I standing up for him? 402 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,480 You're lying. 403 00:24:34,060 --> 00:24:36,260 You know what happened in the prison yard that day. 404 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,680 You know there was no gun. 405 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:41,040 You're about to send a man to jail, and I'm trying to figure out what you're 406 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,040 doing it for. 407 00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:44,340 You know, I bet you're not even supposed to be here. 408 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,940 What I don't understand, Mr. Weeks, is what you think you're getting out of 409 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:48,940 this. 410 00:24:50,260 --> 00:24:53,180 I don't want to talk to you. Are they taking care of your medical costs? 411 00:24:53,180 --> 00:24:54,039 none of your business. 412 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,100 Are they going to take care of your wife, Mr. Weeks? Hey, I don't have to 413 00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,040 some smart Jew lawyer come in here and stick his nose into my affairs. 414 00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:04,740 Mr. Weeks? 415 00:25:05,820 --> 00:25:07,940 I'm going to give you a reason to change your testimony. 416 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,700 If you get up on the stand and tell the truth about what happened that day, 417 00:25:11,780 --> 00:25:15,140 you're going to buy yourself the services of one smart Jew lawyer. 418 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,280 And he's going to make sure that your pension and your disabilities and your 419 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,900 medical needs are completely taken care of. 420 00:25:23,420 --> 00:25:26,100 You're trying to bribe me, Mr. Markowitz. 421 00:25:26,380 --> 00:25:30,260 No, I'm trying to induce you to tell the truth, Mr. Weeks. And because I'm just 422 00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:32,120 some dumb old... 423 00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:35,290 You figure the way to do that is to throw me something. 424 00:25:36,990 --> 00:25:39,490 I don't think of it that way. The hell you don't. 425 00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:45,050 It never occurred to you that if I was lying, that I would have my reasons, and 426 00:25:45,050 --> 00:25:47,910 I would be thinking about the men that I worked with, that I would feel some 427 00:25:47,910 --> 00:25:49,910 loyalty to them, some obligation. 428 00:25:51,850 --> 00:25:53,450 You just don't think that that matters. 429 00:25:53,710 --> 00:25:55,170 I think there are things that matter more. 430 00:25:55,390 --> 00:25:56,229 Like what? 431 00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:57,230 My pension? 432 00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:58,950 My health benefits? 433 00:25:59,790 --> 00:26:01,450 A fistful of $100 bills? 434 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,940 No, how about being able to die a little bit easier knowing that you didn't send 435 00:26:07,940 --> 00:26:09,100 a man to jail with a lie? 436 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:30,200 Look, Mr. Weeks, I'm sorry I tried to buy you off there. That was a stupid 437 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,200 to do. 438 00:26:32,110 --> 00:26:35,890 In the end, this has got nothing to do with pensions or medical benefits or 439 00:26:35,890 --> 00:26:40,290 whatever else it is a smart Jew lawyer can give for you. 440 00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:56,510 Gretchen, yesterday we... 441 00:26:56,750 --> 00:27:01,430 We talked about your contribution to your husband's business. I'd like to 442 00:27:01,430 --> 00:27:03,850 today about your husband's contribution. 443 00:27:06,130 --> 00:27:08,630 To the best of your knowledge, who ran the company? 444 00:27:08,930 --> 00:27:10,210 My husband ran the company. 445 00:27:10,610 --> 00:27:16,050 Who was on the road three days out of every five to different cities all 446 00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:19,050 the United States? Your husband was, wasn't he? Yes, my husband was. 447 00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:24,910 You could say he was being a hunter -gatherer, couldn't you? 448 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,200 Are you taking his seminars? 449 00:27:27,460 --> 00:27:34,300 Yes, I am. And I find that what they've done is to increase by a 450 00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:39,340 factor of a thousand the intimacy and closeness that my wife and I are capable 451 00:27:39,340 --> 00:27:40,700 of. Well, that's great, Seth. 452 00:27:40,940 --> 00:27:42,940 Could we move on with the questions and answers, please? 453 00:27:45,540 --> 00:27:46,580 All right, now you're... 454 00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:50,580 You're aware, are you not, that Roy Tomba Seminars is about to take some 455 00:27:50,580 --> 00:27:52,180 dramatic steps toward expansion? 456 00:27:52,460 --> 00:27:56,280 I don't know what Roy Tomba Seminars is about to do. Well, you know that Roy has 457 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,960 been actively pursuing a number of celebrity endorsements. 458 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:06,000 You know that he's approached Frank Gifford, Joe Piscopo, Alan Thicke, that 459 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,780 has gone about doing all of this, confident that you would be there for 460 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,320 Excuse me. And Gretchen, now you're saying... 461 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,720 You won't be there. Excuse me. This is a deposition. That means a question and 462 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,639 answer format. 463 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,140 It doesn't mean testimonials for Roy Thomas seminars. 464 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,500 And it doesn't mean long, self -serving speeches. 465 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,640 Ask a question, or let's get out of here. Gretchen. 466 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,260 Have we really reached this point? Have we gone through the entire 467 00:28:32,260 --> 00:28:34,200 troubleshooting guide to marital repair? 468 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,180 Do you have any idea how annoying you are? Am I annoying or am I tenacious? 469 00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:43,800 Annoying. Am I annoying or am I determined to use the principles that 470 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,280 developed, the pillars, the building blocks, and so forth, to help our 471 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,480 in the same way that I've helped so many other people's marriages? 472 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:57,000 Well, not this one, Roy. I can't live inside of a 24 -hour -a -day 473 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,980 so... Seth, why don't you ask me whatever you have to ask me, let's get 474 00:29:00,980 --> 00:29:03,120 deposition done, and then let's go to trial. 475 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,360 Don't let's get ahead of ourselves. I am not getting ahead of myself. We've made 476 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,940 very generous offers. He has rejected every single one. So, if a settlement 477 00:29:10,940 --> 00:29:14,720 can't be reached, let's get into a courtroom and let's go to war. 478 00:29:14,980 --> 00:29:17,960 Gretchen, Eli, why the hostility? 479 00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:23,980 Excuse me. 480 00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:25,780 Yes? Are you Mr. 481 00:29:26,020 --> 00:29:27,020 Arnold Becker? 482 00:29:27,490 --> 00:29:32,570 Yes? I understand that you were involved in an automobile accident with a member 483 00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:33,570 of a Chinese community. 484 00:29:34,010 --> 00:29:36,830 Yes, I was. Please, come in. Have a seat. 485 00:29:38,350 --> 00:29:40,110 Hi, I'm Zhu Hua. 486 00:29:40,330 --> 00:29:41,330 Hi. Hi. 487 00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:47,490 I'm here representing the Chinese American Benevolent Society. We just 488 00:29:47,490 --> 00:29:52,010 make sure that everything is being done that can be done to remedy this great 489 00:29:52,010 --> 00:29:54,970 wrong. The insurance companies are taking care of it. 490 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,380 If the insurance companies don't take care of it, please, Mr. Becker, make 491 00:30:00,380 --> 00:30:01,980 that you feel free to call on us. 492 00:30:02,540 --> 00:30:06,140 If you don't mind my asking, why are you taking such a special interest in this? 493 00:30:07,940 --> 00:30:12,720 Well, Mr. Becker, ours is a very close -knit community. 494 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,480 If our driving skills aren't where they should be, we'd like to make amends for 495 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,920 that. There's nothing wrong with your driving skills. 496 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,900 Well, many people feel otherwise. 497 00:30:24,190 --> 00:30:29,370 A quirk that we can laugh about becomes instead fodder for those who foster 498 00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:30,450 racism and violence. 499 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:35,190 If anything, I would attribute a lack of skill in driving to someone being a 500 00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:39,170 recent immigrant rather than their belonging to a specific ethnic group. 501 00:30:39,670 --> 00:30:44,090 Maybe they aren't accustomed to driving a car. Maybe they're unfamiliar with the 502 00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:47,210 city. What an unusual man you are, Mr. Becker. 503 00:30:47,410 --> 00:30:51,130 I don't think I'm so unusual. I just try to understand the forces that make us 504 00:30:51,130 --> 00:30:53,850 the way we are, that divide us, that... 505 00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:55,460 Turn us against one another. 506 00:30:56,180 --> 00:31:01,180 Oh, Mr. Becker, I sense that you're a man for whom race isn't really a 507 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,340 I love people of all races. 508 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,640 Well, 509 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,120 when I came up here, I wasn't expecting anyone like you. 510 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:18,900 Listen, being a white male, being a very affluent white male, I understand that 511 00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:20,760 I have an incredibly privileged life. 512 00:31:21,530 --> 00:31:23,430 I consume an inordinate amount of resources. 513 00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:27,330 I have a standard of living that can only be called grotesque when compared 514 00:31:27,330 --> 00:31:28,490 that of the rest of the world. 515 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:33,010 I find myself wanting to get to know you, Mr. Becker. 516 00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:34,930 You ever been over to Kim Joy's on Broadway? 517 00:31:35,850 --> 00:31:37,570 I don't believe I ever have been. 518 00:31:37,790 --> 00:31:39,070 King of Choo Chow one time. 519 00:31:40,790 --> 00:31:42,090 You want to take me there? 520 00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:44,230 Yes, I do. 521 00:31:51,530 --> 00:31:56,910 Well, Mr. Becker, I wouldn't go to eat Choo Chow Wonton with you if it meant 522 00:31:56,910 --> 00:31:58,710 never eating Choo Chow Wonton again. 523 00:31:59,770 --> 00:32:00,770 What do you mean? 524 00:32:00,910 --> 00:32:02,570 I mean you're a racist pig. 525 00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:06,710 I'm not here from the Chinese American Benevolent Society. 526 00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:11,510 I'm here at the request of the McKenzie Brackman Minority Alliance. 527 00:32:12,090 --> 00:32:15,790 And I believe that whatever you may have said to me just now was said for one 528 00:32:15,790 --> 00:32:16,790 reason only. 529 00:32:17,450 --> 00:32:20,290 You want to go to bed with me, Mr. 530 00:32:20,490 --> 00:32:22,980 Becker? That's just not going to happen. 531 00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:30,440 Now that you know that, you may drop the pretense and go back to being who you 532 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,440 really are. 533 00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,920 Mackenzie Brackman Minority Alliance. 534 00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:46,580 Boy, have I got some good news for you. 535 00:32:47,230 --> 00:32:47,929 What's that? 536 00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:50,850 Roy Tome, but not exactly your true blue kind of guy. 537 00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:52,069 No? 538 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:54,590 Your names, pictures, the works. 539 00:32:59,690 --> 00:33:00,690 Boy, you're good. 540 00:33:00,830 --> 00:33:01,830 Thanks. 541 00:33:04,670 --> 00:33:06,770 I had a pretty good time last night. Me too. 542 00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:08,650 You think we could do it again sometime? 543 00:33:09,010 --> 00:33:10,570 You're willing to go back in the car with me? 544 00:33:10,810 --> 00:33:11,810 Yes, I am. 545 00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:13,830 I'm willing to go back in the car with you. 546 00:33:14,250 --> 00:33:17,530 Mr. Weeks, I'm going to ask you some questions that you answered the other 547 00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:19,310 I'd like you to answer them again. 548 00:33:20,050 --> 00:33:23,850 When Horace Washington was trying to escape, did he fire at the guards who 549 00:33:23,850 --> 00:33:24,850 trying to stop him? 550 00:33:25,490 --> 00:33:29,950 No. Was it a bullet from Mr. Washington's gun that killed Donald 551 00:33:30,450 --> 00:33:33,350 No. From whose gun was that bullet fired? 552 00:33:34,390 --> 00:33:35,390 From my gun. 553 00:33:35,530 --> 00:33:39,170 When Horace Washington's body was examined, was he found to have had a 554 00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:40,450 No. 555 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,380 How did the gun he was alleged to have had get there? The captain of the guard 556 00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:47,500 put it there. Was Horace Washington shot to prevent him from escaping? 557 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,900 We shot the tires out of the laundry truck. He was not about to escape. 558 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,340 He had his hands over his head when he was shot. 559 00:33:54,740 --> 00:33:55,780 Who pulled the trigger? 560 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,080 We all did. 561 00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:59,340 We wanted to kill him, and we killed him. 562 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,260 I have no further questions. 563 00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:15,409 Tell us, Mr. Weeks, what happened between the time you first 564 00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:17,630 testified and today? 565 00:34:18,010 --> 00:34:19,009 Nothing happened. 566 00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:24,570 Did either of the defendant's attorneys communicate with you in any way? 567 00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:29,030 Mr. Markowitz spoke to me. I see. And what did he say? 568 00:34:29,290 --> 00:34:32,710 He impressed on me the importance of telling the truth. 569 00:34:32,929 --> 00:34:36,150 He impressed on you the importance of telling the truth. 570 00:34:37,070 --> 00:34:38,230 How did he do that? 571 00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:41,929 I don't know how he did that. 572 00:34:43,090 --> 00:34:50,050 What did he offer you in return for changing 573 00:34:50,050 --> 00:34:51,050 your testimony? 574 00:34:53,350 --> 00:34:57,730 Nothing. Sir, you are up here admitting to murder. 575 00:34:58,030 --> 00:35:03,350 Are you aware of the fact that you can and will be prosecuted, and if 576 00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:05,670 you will in all likelihood... 577 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,720 Spend the next 10 to 20 years in prison. 578 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:13,340 That won't happen, Mr. Shale. It won't happen. On what do you base your belief 579 00:35:13,340 --> 00:35:16,980 that it won't happen? On the fact that I will be dead inside of six months. I 580 00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:17,980 have cancer. 581 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,440 And even though I have no use for him or anything that he stands for, I think 582 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,560 before I leave this world, I ought to own up to what I did. 583 00:35:33,580 --> 00:35:37,080 I think that I will be able to die easier that way. 584 00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:48,620 I want to talk about accountability. 585 00:35:50,420 --> 00:35:56,180 I want to talk about the absolute necessity for judging people's actions 586 00:35:56,180 --> 00:35:58,780 consistent, codified standard of behavior. 587 00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:01,060 The law. 588 00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:02,380 Now, the defense... 589 00:36:02,730 --> 00:36:06,770 doesn't want you to do that. No, they would rather you not be quite that 590 00:36:06,770 --> 00:36:07,770 rigorous. 591 00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:13,730 They'd rather you apply situational ethics, which are infinitely malleable, 592 00:36:13,730 --> 00:36:19,590 accommodate historical context or youthful fervor or anything else that 593 00:36:19,590 --> 00:36:21,810 to excuse what was done. 594 00:36:22,290 --> 00:36:28,190 This man participated in a conspiracy to enable a convicted killer to escape 595 00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:29,190 from prison. 596 00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:35,830 His defense is that said killer's life was in danger. And in lieu of proof, we 597 00:36:35,830 --> 00:36:41,030 are offered an array of anecdotes and conjecture. We are given the revised 598 00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:46,710 testimony of a prison guard who has suddenly decided to bare his soul. 599 00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:51,650 As to what he may have been offered in return for this, we can only guess. I 600 00:36:51,650 --> 00:36:54,210 object to the implication that Mr. Weeks was offered anything. 601 00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:56,810 The objection is sustained. The jury will disregard. 602 00:36:57,130 --> 00:36:58,350 Ladies and gentlemen. 603 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,400 I don't know what your respective politics are. 604 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,160 I don't know what you thought or think of the Black Panther Party. 605 00:37:06,980 --> 00:37:12,100 What I do know is this. A crime was committed. The man who committed it 606 00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:15,220 a fugitive from justice for some 25 years. 607 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,520 To torture the facts into forgiving his crime does violence to the system that 608 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,000 we are sworn to uphold and which he was dedicated to destroy. 609 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,120 Convict him. 610 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,340 Convict him and send him to prison. 611 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:43,840 My adversary, Mr. Shale, talks about the law and the need for obedience to the 612 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,940 law. And in general, I would agree with him. 613 00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:50,880 I would ask you to remember that when police officers or prison guards 614 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:57,800 brutalize, beat, and kill those people in their custody, they are 615 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,130 breaking... The law to try and save a man's life in such an instance isn't a 616 00:38:03,130 --> 00:38:07,970 crime. The law recognizes that there are times when people must take decisive, 617 00:38:08,030 --> 00:38:11,430 sometimes violent action in defense of another person's life. 618 00:38:12,370 --> 00:38:16,390 We believe that the evidence speaks resoundingly that this is what Jay 619 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:22,010 did. It isn't conjecture to say that Horace Washington's life was at risk. We 620 00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:25,810 all saw the sworn testimony of a man that put it at risk. 621 00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:30,390 we have all seen the sworn testimony of one of the men who killed him. 622 00:38:30,730 --> 00:38:33,330 I'm not asking you to take a nostalgic view of these events. 623 00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:39,550 I'm asking you to determine whether the actions Jay Ellison took were taken in 624 00:38:39,550 --> 00:38:43,250 good faith and whether they were justified by the conditions that existed 625 00:38:43,250 --> 00:38:44,250 that time. 626 00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:49,170 I believe that in doing so, you'll come to the conclusion that the only just 627 00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:51,330 verdict is not guilty. 628 00:39:00,879 --> 00:39:01,879 You know what? 629 00:39:02,460 --> 00:39:05,460 I'd like to see if we can't settle this matter. What do you think about that? 630 00:39:05,740 --> 00:39:07,160 Hey, Eli, we're for that. 631 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,980 Honest engine, we are for that. I think it's important to stress at this point 632 00:39:11,980 --> 00:39:15,800 that we're pretty much at rock bottom as to what I would consider fair. 633 00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:19,580 In other words, the $4 million up front and the $50 ,000 a month, that's pared 634 00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:21,880 down to the nub. It's not Roy who wants a divorce. 635 00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:23,820 No, it's not Roy who wants a divorce. 636 00:39:24,140 --> 00:39:28,620 It's Roy who wants to get under the hood of a marriage that is broken down by 637 00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:33,640 the side of the road. It's Roy that wants to fix things. It's Roy that wants 638 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,640 try. 639 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,380 I think he's entitled to compensation for his emotional devastation. You know, 640 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,120 I'd have to think, Mr. Tama, that your image has a great deal to do with your 641 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,380 success. I'm sure that's true. 642 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,980 People whose marriages are foundering come to you so that you can guide them. 643 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:53,200 From where I sit, I'd say that your image is your principal asset. 644 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,940 I'd be inclined to agree with that. 645 00:39:55,180 --> 00:39:59,800 Well, what do you think that'll do to it? 646 00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:10,290 Which of the five life -affirming gestures are being performed in that 647 00:40:10,290 --> 00:40:14,510 series of photographs, Roy? Gretchen, I think that we should take a moment and 648 00:40:14,510 --> 00:40:17,970 think about how we want to deal with this. We've already thought about it. 649 00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:22,690 You aren't contemplating going public with this, are you? Yeah, I've already 650 00:40:22,690 --> 00:40:23,690 written a press release. 651 00:40:24,070 --> 00:40:26,250 Now, Gretchen, that is not being constructive. 652 00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:28,710 That is not a life -affirming gesture. 653 00:40:29,050 --> 00:40:32,470 It would, however, give me an inordinate amount of pleasure. 654 00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:35,110 Okay. What is it you're looking for? 655 00:40:35,470 --> 00:40:36,950 A divorce, that's number one. 656 00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:41,670 Number two, she doesn't have to buy him off. He can have Roy Thomas Seminars 657 00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:43,230 Incorporated in its entirety. 658 00:40:43,590 --> 00:40:45,830 No cash upfront, no spousal support. 659 00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:47,730 Nothing? Nothing. Zero. 660 00:40:48,050 --> 00:40:49,410 Zed. Seth? 661 00:40:50,730 --> 00:40:57,270 Well, Roy, look, I'd be lying if I said there wasn't an exposure here. I mean, 662 00:40:57,290 --> 00:41:03,430 if it were simple adultery, I think we could weather that, but the fact is 663 00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:04,430 talking... 664 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,200 threesomes and, oh, well, costumes involved. 665 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,720 It kind of makes me feel as though this could hurt us. 666 00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:19,520 Would it change anything if I said that I know that these sexual exploits 667 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,560 correspond to a deficiency in me and not in you? 668 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,520 No, dear, it wouldn't change a thing. 669 00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:31,020 Go away. 670 00:41:39,340 --> 00:41:40,500 Does that mean me? 671 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,840 What are you doing here? 672 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,880 You said you'd give me a ride. I came to take you up on your offer. 673 00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:55,240 How'd you find my office? 674 00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,200 You told me the address of the building and your parking place has your name on 675 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,200 it. 676 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,060 And I know what kind of car you drive. 677 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,240 But the Bentley is in the shop. 678 00:42:05,740 --> 00:42:09,420 I asked the parking attendant the name of the man who drove it. Did the Chinese 679 00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:14,540 people send you? Excuse me? The Chinese people. The McKenzie Brackman Minority 680 00:42:14,540 --> 00:42:17,700 Alliance. Is another point being made is what I'm asking? 681 00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:21,020 Are you here because my attitude towards women has been found wanting? 682 00:42:21,380 --> 00:42:23,380 Who's standing outside my door now, huh? 683 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,700 Maybe this is a bad time. 684 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,040 Wait a minute. 685 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,900 Why are you here? 686 00:42:34,030 --> 00:42:35,370 I wanted to apologize. 687 00:42:37,110 --> 00:42:38,110 For what? 688 00:42:38,750 --> 00:42:39,990 For driving away. 689 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:43,330 Instead of sticking around. 690 00:42:44,310 --> 00:42:46,710 Just in case you needed for me to be a witness. 691 00:42:47,490 --> 00:42:48,490 That's okay. 692 00:42:50,410 --> 00:42:52,050 And I'm sorry for laughing. 693 00:42:53,690 --> 00:42:55,670 God, I love hearing a woman apologize. 694 00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:59,470 How's the car? 695 00:43:00,690 --> 00:43:01,730 It'll be all right. 696 00:43:03,690 --> 00:43:06,210 I have to tell you something, Arnold Becker. 697 00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:12,630 I haven't stopped thinking about you since the day we met. 698 00:43:14,010 --> 00:43:15,330 Do you have dinner plans? 699 00:43:15,890 --> 00:43:16,970 No, I don't. 700 00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:19,070 Let's go to dinner. 701 00:43:29,930 --> 00:43:33,310 I've got to tell you, I find car culture and all its ramifications largely 702 00:43:33,310 --> 00:43:34,350 insidious in nature. 703 00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:40,290 Eli, Eli, try not to let the clutch out all at once. It totally atomizes us as a 704 00:43:40,290 --> 00:43:45,110 society. We exist in a world encapsulated in steel. The random 705 00:43:45,110 --> 00:43:49,710 real city like New York doesn't happen out here. Eli, pay attention to what 706 00:43:49,710 --> 00:43:50,710 you're doing. 707 00:43:51,110 --> 00:43:52,130 That's the other thing. 708 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,460 All the contemplative time people have while walking or riding on a bus or 709 00:43:56,460 --> 00:44:00,020 subway is totally transformed. Now I have to concentrate on driving. 710 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,320 My attention for force is given over essentially to avoiding death. 711 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,760 There is no more contemplative place in the world than the inside of a car. 712 00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:12,940 It is hopeless. 713 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,740 Eli, it is not hopeless. Yes, it is, Jinx. I'm never going to adapt to life 714 00:44:17,740 --> 00:44:21,240 here. Hey, you think I was born doing what I'm doing now? 715 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:25,120 It wasn't very long ago I was working at a beauty parlor on Ed's Cove Avenue in 716 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,120 the Bronx. 717 00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:27,660 How'd you wind up a private investigator? 718 00:44:28,820 --> 00:44:29,840 You really want to know? 719 00:44:30,260 --> 00:44:31,260 Yeah. 720 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,900 I worked as a secretary for a private investigator. I watched, I listened. 721 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,700 And today you're driving a Ferrari. 722 00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:41,440 I have a weakness for fast cars. 723 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,900 I would think most people with cars like this wouldn't want to use them for 724 00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:46,900 driving lessons. 725 00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:48,500 I have more than one weakness. 726 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,580 Has the jury reached a verdict? 727 00:45:03,980 --> 00:45:08,360 We have, Your Honor. What say you? On the charge of aiding and abetting 728 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,860 we find the defendant not guilty. 729 00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:15,620 On the charge of conspiracy, we find the defendant not guilty. 730 00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:23,680 Thank you, Jonathan. 731 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,840 We did good. Thank you. We're going to go out and celebrate tonight, right? 732 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,960 Absolutely. I'm going to head back to the office. Pick a restaurant, call me, 733 00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:31,380 and I'll meet you there. Okay. Hey. 734 00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:32,740 Good work. Thanks, Stuart. 735 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,440 You came. 736 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,780 Yeah. I'm glad you came. 737 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,600 Me too. 738 00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:47,460 How do you feel vindicated? 739 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,020 I feel fortunate. Who are you going to go by, Barry or Jay? 740 00:45:51,260 --> 00:45:52,500 Jay. Stuart! 741 00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:54,060 What are your plans? 742 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,540 I'll answer all your questions. 743 00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:05,610 Thank you.